THAT ONE TIME I WAS AN ATHEIST

I recently listened to an interesting interview with Becket Cook on Focus on the Family. He’s a former homosexual who hit it big in the fashion industry and was besties with all sorts of people, including well known actors and actresses.

Two points of his story resonated scarily well with me:

  1. He practiced practical atheism for a majority of his life (so did I from college until roughly five years ago).
  2. He touched on the issue of post-modern relativism and the fact that it never really satisfies (yep, been there, too).

The idea behind post-modern relativism is that there’s really no absolute truth. We’re allowed to create our own boundaries and definitions of what our personal truths are.

After all, I’m me, you’re you and what impacts and applies to my life is none ya business.

But here’s the deal: we’re all interconnected folks, and the decisions I make DO impact others as well.

There are also undeniable truths God created in this world even if we want to pretend they don’t exist. Hmmm, let me see: gravity (and the fact that we don’t go flying off this planet every morning we wake up), the desire for justice (technically if my truth involves smacking you in the face every time I feel like it, why is this frowned upon? I mean, I’m just living my truth, hombre!), the desire to keep living even when your world is on fire (I see there being absolutely no point in self-preservation even if we’re all supposedly evolved animals because really, what are we living for in that case?)

The extreme yearning to be loved.

So why is this important? You most likely have a loved one who’s in college and depending on which college they attend, post-modern relativism WILL be shoved down their throats. Especiallialy if they’re an adorable Liberal Arts major like moi. It’ll be way too easy to pat them on the head, roll your eyes, and make them feel like their thoughts and opinions don’t matter.

DON’T. DO. THAT.

Instead? Love them. Love them hard. Because Christ’s love is the ultimate truth teller.

People talk big during the day, believing all sorts of nonsense about this life. It’s at night when they’re scared, alone and the anxiety of false gods like post-modern relativism (or insert any asinine thought process that’s currently in vogue), sucks the absolute life out of them.

Nobody ever talks about that part.

We, as the Church, have to offer truth despite moral and ethical breakdown in this world. Remember, Christ doesn’t return until it’s like the days of Noah, when nobody believed in anything except themselves.

But we believe in something far greater because we know what Christ has done for each and every one of us.

And there’s no greater truth than the one that lives in your heart.

#atheism #postmodernrelativism

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10 thoughts on “THAT ONE TIME I WAS AN ATHEIST”

    1. Not angry but over it. But you’re right, I probably do need to be more patient with others. That’s something Christ is continually working on with me. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment!

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  1. “There are also undeniable truths God created in this world even if we want to pretend they don’t exist. Hmmm, let me see: gravity (and the fact that we don’t go flying off this planet every morning we wake up), the desire for justice (technically if my truth involves smacking you in the face every time I feel like it, why is this frowned upon? I mean, I’m just living my truth, hombre!), the desire to keep living even when your world is on fire (I see there being absolutely no point in self-preservation even if we’re all supposedly evolved animals because really, what are we living for in that case?)”

    nope, no god needed for gravity, or for morals or for self-preservation. An argument from personal ignorance e.g. If I don’t think there is a need, there isn’t a need, is just one more logical fallacy.

    as for justice, exactly what justice is in your bible when it says that this god killed a child for a parents’ actions? Or when your god picks and chooses who can accept it and then damns those it prevents from accepting it for no fault of their own?

    that Christians can’t agree on justice or morals amongst themselves just shows that there is no god and no need for a god. You all make up your god in your own image, assuming that this god has your very human hates and desires.

    and with this virus now? well, we see that the bible lies a lot when it claims that Christians can heal people. As usual, it can’t do anything with a real disease or a real amputation. All Christians are left with is making excuses.

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    1. Do you believe it’s unjust to hurt someone because you feel like it? If so, according to atheism, that doesn’t make sense. Why hold yourself to a moral standard if we’re all animals. By all rights, I could go and do whatever I want and nobody should even blink. There is no wrong or right, correct?

      Yet, typically, if I go and physically hurt someone or something that’s perceived as weaker than me, it’s categorized as “evil.”

      But how can that be so if God doesn’t exist? If good isn’t a thing, bad isn’t either.

      It just is.

      All I know, is there’s an immense amount of love I’ve never known before and an undeniable truth in that. I can honestly say, I hope you get to feel it one day, too.

      It’s exhausting living in a world that has no constructs of any kind. Especially when that ideology is a false one served to feed our own egos and desires.

      Thanks for reading and commenting and sharing your perspective. I truly mean that.

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      1. I think it is unjust to hurt someone because you feel like it. And no, nothing about atheism indicates that doesn’t make sense. As usual, you are trying to claim that atheism is something other than the conclusion that a god doesn’t exist. It is not nihilism, it is not a worldview on that has morals. Atheists have a vast variety of morals and worldviews.

        Even animals don’t harm each other because they just feel like it. That takes a sick animal, human or some other species. Morals standards have evolved so civilization can flourish. That’s why we hold to them, that they benefit us. For example, if we still had the slavery economy approved by your god (encouraging no one to ever seek freedom), we wouldn’t have the civilization we have now.

        There is indeed right and wrong, and again, your fear of someone daring to not need you or your god influences your knowledge. You either are honestly that ignorant of atheism or you intentionally try to lie about it. Happily, that right and wrong are subjective and have changed since the era of ignorant people claiming that some god approves of slavery, approves of genocide, approves of killing a child for its parents actions to keep them “in line.”

        No one needs your god for morals. Indeed, Christians have changes what morals they want this god to approve of repeatedly. You can’t agree so no reason to think you have some objective morality. For example, hopefully you would find a human committing genocide, controlling someone’s mind so they could hurt them, etc to be wrong. But if you have no problem with a god doing the same things, your morality is no more than might equals right, the morality of an action being subjectively dependent on what something is, not the action itself being good or evil. With a morality like this, you would follow anyone stronger than you. This is how tyrants are followed.

        I would argue that there is no love since there is no evidence for this god, and the bible has this god failing the decent description of love in the bible. What I suspect you feel is that your morals are approved of by a god and that is a very intoxicating idea. You want to feel special and need other people to agree with you. When they don’t, then you have to make false claims about them so you can keep feeling good.

        Yes, I know it is exhausting being a Christian that has to have no constructs except those you have to make up and try to ignore questions asked of you when they dare to point out your religion fails. You have created an ideology that feeds your ego and desires; that an omnipotent being agrees with Ericka and no one else. Atheism doesn’t do that. It looks at the facts and if there is no evidence for Ericka’s god or any other Christian’s god, then there is no reason to think that there are gods, no matter how appealing the idea is.

        My morals are from humans. They have been improved upon for millennia and they still are being improved. I’m not stuck with morals from several thousand years ago, and having to create the entire industry of apologetics to excuse my god’s supposed actions.

        it’s notable that you don’t answer these questions: as for justice, exactly what justice is in your bible when it says that this god killed a child for a parents’ actions? Or when your god picks and chooses who can accept it and then damns those it prevents from accepting it for no fault of their own?

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      2. “Even animals don’t harm each other because they just feel like it. That takes a sick animal, human or some other species.” I’d say we’re all sick then because on some level or other, we’ve all hurt someone. I haven’t lived this life sinless, and I know no one else who has except Christ.

        “It’s notable that you don’t answer these questions: as for justice, exactly what justice is in your bible when it says that this god killed a child for a parents’ actions? Or when your god picks and chooses who can accept it and then damns those it prevents from accepting it for no fault of their own?”

        Can you give me the particular part of Scripture that you’re referring to about God killing a child for a parent’s action? I’d like to read it and process it, because like anything in Scripture, it needs to relate to the overarching storyline in order to make complete sense.

        When you say “your god picks and chooses who can accept it,” do you mean who can accept God? Sorry, I need clarification on that part. If that is what you meant, well for one, we all have fault. We have free will and make choices and a good portion of the time, we choose to do what we want. You said that Christians create a God in their own image, Nah, man. If I created a God in my own image He’d be swigging vodka with me right now and keying a few cars. The God I know is holy and beyond my comprehension save for the unfathomable act He endured on the cross to save me from myself.

        I can’t save me. Neither can you or any other human being. Flesh and blood, man. We all die and not one of us has any control over that. The wages of sin is death, after all.

        We ALL have the opportunity to choose Christ. God already knows where are hearts are. He doesn’t pick and choose who follows Him. He gives us all the opportunity to follow Him. Some of us would rather spin our wheels believing He doesn’t exist instead.

        And fair enough because we ALL get that choice.

        Serious question though. Have you read the Bible? Just wondering because as an atheist, I never did and just used hearsay and other people’s arguments to make my own. I advise truly reading it from an academic standpoint. If nothing else, it would be a pretty explosive tool in your arsenal.

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      3. I’ll be back later with more commentary but here is the bit in the bible.

        “The Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and it became very ill. 16 David therefore pleaded with God for the child; David fasted, and went in and lay all night on the ground. 17 The elders of his house stood beside him, urging him to rise from the ground; but he would not, nor did he eat food with them. 18 On the seventh day the child died. And the servants of David were afraid to tell him that the child was dead; for they said, “While the child was still alive, we spoke to him, and he did not listen to us; how then can we tell him the child is dead? He may do himself some harm.” 19 But when David saw that his servants were whispering together, he perceived that the child was dead; and David said to his servants, “Is the child dead?” They said, “He is dead.” – 2 Samuel 12

        under what circumstances would this ever be okay to kill one person for another person’s actions?

        I’ve read the bible, at least twice, once as a believer, once as not. It is unfortunate that you try to accuse me of using hearsay and other people’s arguments. I see you’ve used the wiggle word “truly” when saying I should “truly” read it, as if somehow there is a way to read it “untruly”. And yes, having read it is a truly explosive tool in my arsenal, since I know when Christians are lying about it. Once someone realizes that I know their bible as well or better than they do, a discussion often ends with the Christian retreated with a “I’ll pray for you”.

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      4. Thanks for giving me the passage. I’ll read and reflect and get back to you with my thoughts.

        That’s awesome you’ve read the Bible. Can I ask you why you no longer believe? And were you a born again believer or were you just raised in the church (I find there to be a huge difference between the two)?

        I didn’t accuse you of hearsay, by the way. I accused myself of doing that in the past and was curious to see where you stood. Thanks for clarifying.

        Here’s the deal: we’re going to disagree, and that’s cool with me. We all get a choice. I’ve lived the opposite side of things and then I had a very strange occurence that led me to Jesus when I wasn’t even looking for Him. I was seriously the last person on earth to have ever thought I’d be “born again.” I thought that concept was a bunch of BS. But I know differently now and that’s not something anyone will ever be able to take away from me.

        As for Christians you’ve talked to in the past, they may not know their Bible very well or maybe they’ve come to the conclusion that they can’t change your mind. And really, that’s fine. We’re not called to change minds and hearts. That’s God’s job and up to the individual that hears the Gospel. All I’m supposed to do is spread the Word. And that’s exactly what I’m going to do because He saved me from something that was incredibly dark. It’s the least that I can do for Him.

        At the end of all this, it comes down to faith. And I can’t give you that. You either decide to have it or you don’t. Christ talked about not everyone who cries out to Him wil go to Heaven.And that’s not because God is lying back and plucking the ones He wants and discarding the rest. That’s because some of us have turned our hearts off to Him. And again, that’s all about choice.

        I respect you’ve made yours, so if you want to come back with more of your thoughts, then I’m good with that. But if not, I’m good with that, too. And yes, I’ll pray for you (and actually already have been). Not because I feel sorry for you or in a petty “oh, I’m just gonna pray for this poor misguided dude” kind of way. No, I’m going to pray for you because God created you, and I deeply understand how gut wrenching this world can be. And I figure it’s the least I can do for someone I’d be willing to give my life for.

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      5. Now, that I’ve given you the chapter and verse, I am definitely interested in what you have to say about your god’s actions. I can also provide more very unpleasant verses about this god you claim cares about humans.
        When I say that your god picks and chooses who can accept it, I’m repeating what Paul claims in Romans 9. Yes, I mean who can accept this god. There is no free will in your bible, Ericka. We have the chapter from Romans which I’ve mentioned. We also have that everytime that your god interferes with human action, that abrogates free will. That’s the problem with wanting to have miracles and free will at the same time; they contradict each other. We also have your god controlling minds of people to force them to do its will so it can show off and murdering people which is the ultimate reneging of free will. Examples of these are where your god controls the pharaoh to not allow the Israelites go so it can show off Exodus 10:1-2 is one and I can cite many more others. We have your god allowing the killing of an entire family so it can show off (the book of job). We have your god blinding a man from birth so it can show off (John 9), and as before your god killed the child of David and Bathsheba, denying it free will at all.

        We don’t all have fault, that is from the baseless nonsense of your creation story, where your god either intentionally allows Satan in or was unable to keep it out. It also chose to keep humans ignorant of good and evil. Why would a god do that, Ericka? To blame someone for another’s action is just or fair how?

        It’s a shame that you want to destroy other people’s property. Is your belief in god the only thing that keeps you from being a mean little girl?

        Chrisitans like you love to claim that you don’t “comprehend” your god when it is convenient for you and someone asks hard questions. But you love to claim that you know he loves you and is holy and sacrificed himself for such a special person as you think you are.

        No one needs to “save” you at all. You need to take responsibility for yourself and your actions. Yep, we all die and no one gets a magic afterlife just because we believe in a certain magical being. That Christians can’t agree on what sin even is, no need to fear it. Death is a part of life.

        You ignore your bible intentionally when you falsely claim that everyone has the opportunity to follow Christ. Your JC said himself that he intentionally uses parables to make sure the people he doesn’t want can’t accept him (Matthew 13, Mark 4, Luke 8). Add this to Romans 9, and it appears you haven’t read your bible as you encourage me too. So, since we don’t all get that choice, you falsely claim it is fair.

        As I’ve said, I’ve read the bible. I read it as a believer. And as I went through it, I found that this god was no better than any other bronze/iron age god, just as petty and ignorant as its inventors. I read all of the parts that no pastor or priest ever mentions. My parents, Christians, ask me if they have questions about the bible and Christianity since I read it and they and my evangelical brother and sister-in-law haven’t. I even bought them a nice large print bible so they could read it for themselves. They haven’t, but they still read the little pamphlets that only have the nice bits in them.

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      6. “It’s a shame that you want to destroy other people’s property. Is your belief in god the only thing that keeps you from being a mean little girl?” Ummm…what? Lol.

        I’m starting to get the impression that a lot of what you’re stating is your perception based on family/church issues you’ve dealt with in the past. I’m sorry that you’ve had a bad experience. At the end of the day, people are people. And if you can’t have grace in your heart for them, your decision has been made.

        Nothing I say will change your mind, and like I said before, that’s okay. I can’t change your heart. Only you can do that with God’s help. I really do wish you the best.

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